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Post by sieve on Nov 21, 2009 2:26:54 GMT -5
You make no sense... Keith had that game.. try harder to sound intelligent...its not working moron I was honestly trying to commend u for supporting Keith ... sorry you took it the wrong way "tools of ignorance" is a common hockey term for goalie equipment |
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Post by fighton on Nov 21, 2009 2:27:36 GMT -5
Great Win - great job Alex (and Andrew). Keith played well - but can't give enough credit to Adams for coming out cold and holding his ground - that is the hardest thing to do as a goalie. (to uscfan - I haven't seen either of them play live so I have no idea who is better.) Would love to hear in the blog what the equipment penalty was all about. Clearly Adams gave up that goal on purpose out so he'd get the Win when SC took the lead back. (Kidding, of course) The equipment penalty was due to the new(-ish, I guess, don't remember when it took effect) rule regarding goaltender equipment sizes. Keith's pads are an inch too wide. I'm fairly certain Wilbur knew about it before hand, but honestly who expects the other team to call for a measurement? And in all seriousness, it's a ridiculous rule. These are college kids, and the league is going to force them to buy new pads to conform to NHL standards? Whatever though, both goalies played well. Credit is due to Adams for coming in cold and getting the W, but credit is also due to Keith, he came up with some big saves to keep his team in the game. And for what it's worth, this team's problem isn't the goaltending (either of them), it's team defense. |
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Post by fighton on Nov 21, 2009 2:29:37 GMT -5
You make no sense... Keith had that game.. try harder to sound intelligent...its not working moron I was honestly trying to commend u for supporting Keith ... sorry you took it the wrong way "tools of ignorance" is a common hockey term for goalie equipment ;D, Good thing you explained that, because I really don't think the term is all that common, and I can definitely see how one would take it as a personal attack. |
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Post by sieve on Nov 21, 2009 2:30:50 GMT -5
I can't believe they apply the NHL equip limitations in the PAC-8 ... seems a little overboard - you are basically forcing a college kid to buy a new pair of pads @ $800 a shot (cheapest pair).
But thanks for the explanation.
-ya, sry about the use of the term ... maybe its just an east coast thing.
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Post by fighton on Nov 21, 2009 2:33:44 GMT -5
Exactly. I mean any other equipment wouldn't be a huge deal, but leg pads? Come on, college kids aren't exactly known for their vast monetary resources.
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Post by sieve on Nov 21, 2009 2:36:45 GMT -5
the blocker and glove limitations would still run you $200 a piece ... its uncalled for.
Haven't heard of a league outside NHL, D-1, or Maj Jr. applying it - those guys get all their stuff at cost.
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Post by uscfan on Nov 21, 2009 2:38:43 GMT -5
lol sorry sieve......I just love USC hockey...
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Post by fighton on Nov 21, 2009 2:38:53 GMT -5
Yeah, exactly. Though I'm fairly certain this is an ACHA-wide rule, not just a PAC-8 thing. And if I'm not mistaken, they gave the guys a year or 2 warning or something. But still, if your leg pads are only a year old or so, there's no way you're buying new pads just to shave an inch off the width.
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Post by uscfan on Nov 21, 2009 2:42:44 GMT -5
I dont think anyone told Keith
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Post by sieve on Nov 21, 2009 2:43:36 GMT -5
lol sorry sieve......I just love USC hockey... no worries Yeah, exactly. Though I'm fairly certain this is an ACHA-wide rule, not just a PAC-8 thing. And if I'm not mistaken, they gave the guys a year or 2 warning or something. But still, if your leg pads are only a year old or so, there's no way you're buying new pads just to shave an inch off the width. the sad part is the only reason the rule was created was to increase the amount of goals scored in the NHL ... it is sad to see the NHL market affect amateurs. -affect? it might be effect ... apologies to my USC prof.'s |
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Post by uscfan on Nov 21, 2009 2:45:30 GMT -5
thanks sieve :-)
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Post by fighton on Nov 21, 2009 2:47:07 GMT -5
the sad part is the only reason the rule was created was to increase the amount of goals scored in the NHL ... it is sad to see the NHL market affect amateurs. Exactly, I can understand adopting the rules in leagues that actually develop players for the NHL, but that's just not the case for the ACHA. |
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Post by Alex Goldsmith on Nov 21, 2009 17:15:44 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
I appreciate the active posting (I've got to start using tools of ignorance in the broadcast). Here's my response to the whole Zack Keith discussion, as posted on the hockey blog...
The message boards were incredibly active for this game (41 posts, holy cow!!!). One of the big points of contention was my "bias" against Zack Keith. Let me address this. First off, I think the world of Keith as a person. He is a great guy with an awesome sense of humor (deadpan style). I've carpooled with the guy several times. Entering the season I had him tabbed as the clear starter.
But let me be clear, I am no homer. I am a journalist. If I call something happening on the ice, you'd better believe it's as close to the reality of what is happening on the ice as I can possibly get it. If a Trojan makes a bad play, I'll let you know about it just as surely as I'd bring you a good play. I think that's the only true way I can genuinely bring a listener to the game. From what I (and others who travel with the team) had seen prior to last night's game, Phil Adams has been, simply put, the better goaltender for USC. Although both had struggled with rebound control, Adams had kept more pucks out of the net on a consistent basis, and in most cases, in situations in which he had no business making any kind of a save. Keith had been solid but not spectactular, including giving up a goal from the red line.
The stats backed me up... Prior to the LBSU game, here are the season stats on the two netminders:
Phil Adams - 4.66 GAA, 86% save percentage
Zack Keith - 5.55 GAA, 79% save percentage
That's not huge, but it is an edge in both categories. I'll say it again, I am a journalist. I'm calling it like I see it out there, not one direction or the other. That all being said, Keith had a heckuva game last night and I'm excited to see if he can build on it.
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